As Hermione in the Harry Potter films, Emma Watson can smash a
boy into a wall with one of her spells, no problem. In real life
she travels by bus rather than broomstick, favours hockey over
quidditch, and is a regular teenager with an "extravagant" phone
bill...
There is something disconcerting about coming face to face with
17-year-old Emma Watson.
Because the girl who took on the part of J K Rowling's main
female character in the hugely successful films of the Harry Potter
books has, in eight years (she was nine when she first auditioned
for Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone), made the role so
much her own that it is difficult to tell where Emma stops and
Hermione begins (or vice versa).
Not that she minds. In fact she regards it as something of a
compliment.
"J K Rowling based the character on herself, so obviously she
will have had a very strong idea of how she would develop, but
maybe I have played a small part in the way she is growing up. It
would be very flattering if I had.
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"But I think that naturally I am so like Hermione anyway.
"J K Rowling has been really lovely and very supportive of the
films - she comes on set and she is in e-mail contact with a lot of
us. She just said to me, 'You are Hermione, you have completely
become her,' which was just so nice and so generous of her."
We meet after she and her family have attended a private
screening of the fifth and latest film - Harry Potter and the Order
of the Phoenix. It is, Emma thinks, the best film so far - more
"psychological" and darker as arch-villain Lord Voldemort attempts
to get into Harry's head. Even Emma, who knew exactly what was
going to happen, "bawled" her eyes out at the end.
"People always expect me to know what the finished product will
be like, but I don't have a clue because it is all shot out of
sequence. Before I see every film my nerves are just terrible.
"I remember after the first ten minutes of the first film my dad
turning to me and saying, 'Emma darling, I really think you should
breathe now'."
What impresses you most about Emma is how unspoilt she is;
articulate, opinionated and self-deprecating, she is emerging as a
delightful young adult.
Being a part of such an internationally successful phenomenon
(three of the films are among the top ten worldwide biggest
grossing productions of all time) could have turned her into an
arrogant brat or a spoilt It-girl (she is reported to be earning
£2 million for each of the final two films).
But Emma and the other two central characters - Daniel
Radcliffe's Harry and Rupert Grint's Ron Weasley - have managed to
maintain a kind of normality despite their extraordinary celluloid
upbringing. The film's producers created a familial atmosphere on
set by ensuring continuity of the crew and support staff around the
children (Emma's driver, Nigel - her "best friend" - has been
collecting her since her first audition).
But there is nothing remotely normal about growing up on a film
set of the mammoth proportions of the Harry Potter ones at
Leavesden Studios in Hertfordshire. The scale of the studios (the
old Rolls-Royce factory) is such that the cast are ferried between
stages on golf buggies. Emma points out that as she was so young
when she entered that world she somehow just accepted the
strangeness.
"You will be in the canteen and there will be all these witches
and wizards and ghosts and ghouls queuing up. I get a reality check
whenever my family or friends come and a centaur goes galloping by.
They will be sitting there staring but I just don't see it because
I have never known anything different."
Looking back, Emma now thinks that her parents - both lawyers -
had absolutely no idea just how her casting as Hermione would
change all their lives. While Rupert applied to audition for his
role and Daniel - who had starred in a BBC production of David
Copperfield - was well-known in the film industry, Emma was
randomly spotted when casting agents came to her school.
Born in France where her parents were working (she returned to
England aged five when they divorced), she now lives with her
mother in Oxford and spends every other weekend with her father in
London.
Both parents have new partners and in her extended family set-up
Emma - who is particularly devoted to her full-brother, Alex, 14
("the funniest person in the world" - finds herself the eldest of
seven children.
"There is Alex and then my mother's partner has two sons younger
than me who regularly stay with us, and my father and his new wife
have two-year-old identical twin girls and a three-year-old
son.
"We all get on really well. My family has exploded in the last
two to three years so it's nice ? by contrast ? to be the baby when
I am working. I am the youngest (she is nearly a year younger than
Daniel and 18 months younger than Rupert) and I am a girl, so Dan
and Rupert are really protective of me, they are like my brothers.
Although they do tease me a lot," she says with an affectionate
smile.
In many ways Emma remains an almost typical teenager. Her iPod,
she says with a grin, is "my life", and her music taste ranges from
her parents' favourites, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, to hip-hop
artists she loves to dance to, such as Missy Elliott, Brandy and
Ciara.
Her mobile phone, she reports with another grin, is the means by
which she clings on to the "life" that she has to put on hold when
she is away working on the film (each movie takes around 11 months
to shoot).
Wonderfully polite, she apologises profusely when - several
times during our interview - the electric ping of her phone
indicates another incoming text.
"I am a mad texter - I can do it with my eyes closed - because I
am away so much; it's the way I keep in touch with friends. My one
big extravagance is my phone bill. I am always texting Dan and
Rupert when we are not working. And we are always swapping girl and
boy advice when we're together.
"It's quite funny - I am like, 'Oh, I have got this text from a
boy, what on earth do I say? What does this translate to in boy
language? I don't understand,' and they will be like, 'Well, this
means this.' I have got my own personal on-set boy text
translators," she says with a laugh.
Emma is sensibly circumspect about discussing any real-life
romance she might be involved in ("I wouldn't tell you if I did
have a boyfriend as it would be unfair to the other person," she
says, although she was recently escorted to a ball by 21-year-old
actor Henry Lloyd-Hughes who had a bit part in the fourth Harry
Potter and who plays in the band Adventure Playground with Peaches
Geldof's boyfriend).
But she is happy to talk about the slow-burning on-screen
chemistry between Hermione and Ron - which falls short of the much
anticipated first kiss which Harry shares with fellow pupil Cho
Chang in the new film.
"The romance between us is there if you watch carefully, it's
all underneath the surface. There are hints of it all the time and
at one point Hermione and Ron have a duelling match and she
absolutely smashes him into the back wall with this spell. And Ron
is pretending, 'Oh yeah, I let her do that, it's manners isn't it?'
which is quite funny."
Emma is circumspect, too, about certain aspects of youth
culture.
The night before our interview my own teenage children - all
fascinated by Emma and the other stars of Harry Potter - had
gleefully found an '
Emma Watson' page on Facebook (the latest in a
series of youth-focused social networking websites).
"Oh no, that is a fake," she says. "I have got fakes on
Facebook, Bebo, MySpace - the lot - and it's quite annoying. I
can't understand why people put themselves on there. Some of the
pictures that they put up of themselves make them vulnerable
because anyone can see. I think the internet is very scary."
It is easy to understand why Emma might be wary of courting
publicity - last year it was reported that she was given a
bodyguard after a male fan managed to enter her school and approach
her. Generally, though, she is pretty relaxed about the way in
which her fame sometimes infringes on her private life.
"You wouldn't believe how strongly I fight against not being
normal. I take the bus, I take the train and when I go to visit my
dad in London I am on the Oxford Tube (coach). Well, either I am
going to live a completely shrouded life in which I hide from
everyone and am driven around in cars or I attempt to live a normal
life.
"Yes, I do get stopped and sometimes it may be difficult to deal
with, but I would much prefer to pay that price than not have any
freedom. It's normally just tourists who shout 'Hermione!' and
chase after me. I have been in town with friends and been chased
down the street and have had to hide in shops.
"Dixons is my favourite hiding place. I shouldn't be telling you
this because it won't be my hiding place any more, but I go and
hide behind the computers because that is the last place they
expect you to be."
The other way in which Emma holds on to a normal life is by
continuing with her studies.
While the other two stars have put their education on hold
(Rupert gave up after his GCSEs and Daniel after his AS-levels),
Emma is determined to continue (she gained eight A*s and two As at
GCSE and has just finished AS-levels in English literature, art,
history of art and geography). When she is working she has a tutor
and when she is not she is just a regular pupil at her all-girls
day school.
She imagines she will go to university (both her parents went to
Oxford; she favours philosophy at Cambridge) but she has no other
ambition but to be a proper grown-up actress. Emma laughs out loud
when asked if she has any plans to take off her clothes in a London
theatre in the manner of Daniel Radcliffe in Equus (when we met she
still hadn't seen him in the play).
"The kid has done good," she says.
"It was really brave and I thought he was hilarious in Extras. I
would love to do some theatre but it is hard to fit in with Harry
Potter and my studies. I am waiting for the right time and I am
thinking about next summer after my A-levels. A period drama maybe,
and it doesn't have to be a main role, it just has to be something
I believe in."
It has, Emma says, been a huge privilege - and a great learning
process - to work with the many distinguished actors who have taken
roles in the Harry Potter films. She enjoyed working with Helena
Bonham Carter, who was "so much fun", and she has great affection
and professional admiration for Emma Thompson and Maggie Smith
("who always gives me chocolates at Christmas"). The actors, she
says, "are a bit of a family for us as well". Particularly Robbie
Coltrane (who plays Hagrid, the gamekeeper at Hogwarts School of
Witchcraft and Wizardry).
"He is always telling us completely dirty and inappropriate
jokes that we are far too young to be hearing, but we love, of
course."
Outside her work and her studies Emma likes shopping with
friends ("but I am not a fashion victim"), eating out and playing
sport. When asked, in jest, if she has a glass of wine with her
favourite food (she loves eating at Carluccio's) she points out
that having spent the first five years of her life in France she
had her first watered-down wine when she was about three. When I
suggest that such an idea won't go down well in America - where the
alcohol age limit is 21 - she is not afraid to offer a forthright
opinion.
"What is that about? You can go to war for your country but you
can't have a beer to celebrate? It's mad. I much prefer the
European way in which alcohol is naturally introduced into family
life."
Nor is Emma afraid to offer opinions on other contentious issues
of the day - such as feminism and size zero. Naturally slim, she is
aware that in commenting on weight she might be criticised by
schoolmates who have more reason to worry.
"I am lucky that I stay the same weight. There are so many girls
at my school who suffer from eating disorders. There is so much
pressure on girls our age to be smart and pretty and funny and
skinny - they have to be everything. I definitely know what that
pressure is like but my philosophy is to eat what you like and be
healthy and take exercise."
One thing that annoys her about her female contemporaries is
their reluctance - from vanity, she thinks - to continue with sport
in their late teens.
"I am such a feminist on this. It drives me nuts when friends
say, 'We can't continue because sport gives you muscles and it's so
unattractive, and you get sweaty.' For some reason girls seem to
think it is unfeminine and they worry about being 'pretty'. But I
feel the most pretty when I come off the pitch after a hockey game
and I have got pink cheeks and bright eyes. Sport really makes me
feel good about myself."
Emma gives a good-natured groan when I mention the fact that she
came 98th in the FHM 100 Sexiest Women list for 2007.
"That is the weirdest thing ever and they put some kind of crude
comment like, 'She is one of those sporty types - you would have to
hold her gym shorts for her,' or something. I was like, 'Good God!'
But I suppose it is a compliment for me and Hermione."
Emma talks with such conviction about Hermione that - I gently
suggest - it will probably be hard for her when the films come to
an end (book seven, the final instalment, is scheduled to be shot
in 2010).
"Oh my God, when it comes to an end I don't know how I will
feel," she says pausing, before adding - with a big smile - "but to
be honest I don't think it will end. I think Harry Potter will go
on for ever."